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tightening web of investigations into the treasonous actions of the former president who would expected to run for reelection any day now. yet, on the current lightning rod issues of abortion and gun control, maybe it is our politicians who are polarized for various reasons, because for all of the escalating political combat, as we approach midterm elections, it is our injuring economic wars that appear to be driving the conversation for voters. record inflation and gas prices. wages that have not kept face and where thousands of student borrowers financial burden threatening an entire generation. but whether it's polarizing personal freedoms or economic anxiety, american voters --

on the current political moment in less than four months. can democrats message their way through the economic hurdles to emerge victoriously? as usual, it is the economy, folks. in a moment, i will talk to the top white house economic adviser right here on politicsnation. along with yet another eye-opening testimony a week of our opening testimony of the congressional january 6th poll has even more revealed about how maga republican lawmakers colluded to keep donald trump in power leading up to the insurrection. i will talk to the chair of the senate homeland security in just one minute about which is next ahead of the final scheduled public hearing next week. plus, a real tree. actress cheryl lee ralph fresh off her first emmy nomination for the hit series abbott

elementary. she joins me now later with her husband vincent hughes. you don't want to miss my conversation with a real black power couple about politics, and in this case, the marriage of them both. but first, politics. joining me now, senator gary peters, democrat of michigan and chair of the senate homeland security and government affairs committee senator,, thank you for joining us tonight. another explosive week of testimony and you heard what is going on in the january 6th committee as we look at the possibility of our dealing i've testimony that leads us to believe there was some collusion between those that were in government and those that certainly we're trying to

stop the certification of elections. does this disturb you in terms of our security in terms of the homeland? >> well, thank you for having me. once again, absolutely. it disturbs me. quite frankly, it should disturb every single american. when you think about the core foundation of this government is that we believe that they are fresh air and free elections in a peaceful transfer of power, particularly in the presidency, and here we just have unbelievable testimony and evidence that has come out from the house commission looking into january 6th. pretty clearly showing that there was an active effort to stop the peaceful transfer of power to subvert the core function of our government. when you think about homeland security, fundamental to homeland security is protecting this democratic republican to protect our democracy, to protect the right of people to

express their opinion at their voting place and vote, and yet, it had a president and all of his cronies around him trying to figure out ways to basically subvert that and steal an election. this is outrageous and the american people should stand up and say this is unacceptable. we will never allow this to occur and there needs to be repercussions. i think, certainly the commission and my host colleagues who have done an outstanding job bringing forward the facts, benny thompson has done a great job as well as so many members of that committee. we keep getting more information that we have now. we have a situation where we have the ig for homeland security believing that perhaps the secret service deleted a bunch of text messages. >> i'm going to get to that, let me ask you this, senator, even with former maga devotees, donald trump is expecting by

some to announce his 2024 run for the white house before midterm elections, if not any day now. with midterms less than four months away, it's trump expecting re-entry into the campaign picture? a blessing or a curse for democrats? >> i think if you look at trump, he's already in the midterms right now. he has been getting involved in the senate races across the country and he has been endorsing senate candidates that our folks who have been bent over backwards to basically spread the big lie put out by donald trump to curry favor with him. he is certainly on the ballot now with senate candidates across the country and ballot ground states, and these are candidates who are deeply flawed running against our democratic senator incumbents as well as great challengers like john fetterman in pennsylvania, and we have an opportunity to win. he's running against mr. oz who

basically has done everything he can to cozy up to trump, and run in pennsylvania, even though he is from new jersey. we were seeing these kinds of flood candidates basically carrying the trump banner in the midterms. i think they will pay a price for that. >> let me follow up on that question while there is time, senator, because i have read a few reports this week about a growing fear among top republicans that the party's nomination of deeply flawed candidacy, key senate -- could impair the results they weren't expecting in november and in states like pennsylvania, georgia and arizona. are you confident democrats can hold the senate, if not hold majority november? >> i am, because of the midterms, they will be about candidate choice. voters are going to go into the voting booth this fall and it will have very clear choices between a democratic candidate senate republicans.

if you look -- can have a more clear difference between raphael warnock, democratic incumbent, walker, who's clearly demonstrated time and time again he is not running for prime time, he is simply a qualified to serve in the united states senate and voters are recognizing that and seeing and you are seeing that as well in the polling numbers that shows our democratic incumbents are doing very well. they're holding on through difficult environments and their challengers are going to do the same. i'm increasingly confident, but it all boils down to one thing. we've got to make sure democrats turn out and vote this fall. when democrats turn out to vote, i know we win. >> sounds like you are hoping the voters take a hard look at the candidates, the democrats are facing, in one case you think of dr. oz and you would remember the wizard of oz, when they look behind the curtain, he had no close. thank you, senator peters.

to the economic situation, earlier i spoke with cecilia rouse. 30th chair of the white house council of economic advisers, and the first african american ever to hold that position. >> the chairwoman, it's an honor to have you on to discuss the important and complicated issue in a way that is clear and easy to understand. this week we learned inflation jumped more than 9% in the past year. to its highest level in 40 years. what is driving the increase in prices of goods and services? what can be done about it? >> thank you for inviting me on and i welcome the opportunity to discuss, and it's no question that inflation is high right now.

you overall inflation, including energy and food, increased by over 9% year on year. there is another number we focus on as well, which is food and energy. it could be volatile from month to month. the federal reserve and other economic slick at corn inflation and that also increased unacceptably high. at a much lower rate, 9.5%, still much too high. what's behind these numbers? first, we have to recognize that we are still in a pandemic, and during a pandemic, countries including the united states supported our families, our businesses, so we can continue to buy rent -- pay rent, by food, go about our lives. that mismatch between supply and demand has created some inflation. importantly, since russians unprovoked war in ukraine, we've seen an acceleration in the price of fuel and energy in particular. we are seeing a divergence between the overall number and that is what is driving a lot

of our inflation right now. one important fact about the numbers that were released this week is that they do reflect the month of june. gas prices have come down somewhat since then. again, because they do change month to month, but we understand these numbers are very high. >> these numbers are low high in terms of month to month. we still are confronted with the pandemic and how, in my opinion, not yours, that was mismanaged from the beginning, that and added to ukraine, that's brought us where we are. last month, the new york fed put out a report warning that black and hispanic households could be the hardest hit by high inflation, and researchers want efforts to cool down and overheated economy could -- for against. these communities have made and the job market over the past few years. how do we prevent that from happening? >> it is exactly the challenge

that is ahead. it is a primary responsibility of the federal reserve to control inflation while maintaining maximum employment. we certainly want to maintain gains in the market. the good news is the market is strong, the labor market. the unemployment rate for african americans is almost as low as it was before the pandemic hit, and so, it's still higher than it is overall, which is about 3.6%. it's just over 5% for african americans. but nonetheless, that is, there are many job offers and the labor market is strong. that's important. we also know that household balance sheets are relatively strong compared to -- making these kinds of moves. that is again because of the efforts of the federal government. the federal reserve understands that our economy is typically stronger. that's the case when you start to increase interest rates. with they're hoping is that by increasing interest rates you will see employers demand fewer workers without laying off

workers. they're not going to hire as many workers. and given unemployment is overall a 3.6%, we also know that we've got supply challenges due to the pandemic and the war. if those supply challenges can ease that would help the feds to lower inflation without causing too much distress for households. we understand that that is that's where the president is focused on trying to address inflation. >> in my experience, it must be intentional, particularly when you deal with those who have been, in many cases, steadily unemployed. one of the things for years republicans have been quick to blame, it's social welfare spending and the rise and inflation. apparently at least, one democrat agrees with them. on thursday, west virginia senator, joe manchin said he would not support his own party's efforts to combat

climate change or roll back tax cuts from former president trump's gave the ultra wealthy. because according to a spokesperson, the senator believes those policies would, quote, add fuel to the inflation fire. i want to ask you to weigh in, i wonder as an economist, what are your thoughts about this way of thinking when you hear people say that we cannot deal with social spending and cannot roll back some of the texas that was -- to the ultrarich during the last administration? >> the policies you are referring to are part of president biden's economic policy making, which in my estimation would be deflationary, because your making important basements and our economy. president biden wants to lower everyday cost for americans, prescription drugs, health insurance, utility bills, and

to help americans have a little bit of breathing room, and we know that's important. those costs -- he wants to also make investments in pre-k and childcare. those kinds of investments help people get back to work. that helps inquiries labor supply and increase our economic capacity which generates economic growth. we understand we have to make the change to clean energy. climate change is here. it is an economic cost. the kinds of investments we make and making that transition don't happen right away. they're not inflationary, but the invest in our economy. they help reduce costs that we are making every day, combatting fires, preventing hurricanes, and putting people to work and investing in our infrastructure. we pay for this by increasing taxes on the wealthy on the wealthiest corporation in americans. all of that actually works to reduce inflation while

simultaneously making it important investments on our economy that can actually increase economic growth and also ensure that it is more equitable. madam chairwoman, before we run out of time, we are just a few months away from the midterm elections, the first midterm of any presidency is often reviewed as the referendum on the performance of that administration, especially its handling of the economy. what is your message to voters who is worried about the state of this country? why should they vote for democrats who will support this white house economic agenda going forward? we >> the state of our economy right now is largely the result of the pandemic, which require us to power down the economy, putting in place social distancing requiring people to stay home, and that economy doesn't just come back to life overnight. it is also due to the war in

ukraine. why should voters support this president? this president understands what it takes to get through this pandemic. it was american rescue plan that generated the resources so we can get shots into arms. we are continuing to do. that we are not done. these new variants, be a thought, for the aid of five, are highly transmissible, we knew there are new vaccines coming, we need those resources, we need to get the shots in arms. that's been very important. we understood that hustles need resources to get through this pandemic. that's why we had the fastest growth last year in four years that's why our labor market is historically strong, with unemployment at 3.6%. yes there are challenges. these challenges predate the president in terms of the pandemic and in terms of the war a brush against ukraine. this president believes we have to defend democracy. russia independent invaded an independent country and that is not pot not acceptable.

-- yes it's difficult, there is no administration that can get through this easily. this president understands the kind of policies that we need to get to the other side so that we can have steady, sustainable growth, that is more equitably shared. >> all right. i have not heard this president go to the white house press room and say just takes them bleach and everything will be all right. many thanks to you, chair of the white house council of economic advisers. >> thank you. >> my thanks again to white house and chairwoman real. coming up, the warning signs of flashing red once again. this time the call is coming from the inside. a major threat to our democracy is on the horizon. i'll tell you all about it in tonight's gotcha. later, emmy nominated actress cheryl lee ralph joins us, along with her husband

pennsylvania state senator vincent hughes. they'll be talking, drama politics, and political drama, in an interview you do not want to miss. but first, my colleague richard louis with today's top new story. >> good afternoon. to some stories we are. watching the russian defense ministry said they directed troops to further intensify military action across ukraine. this comes as finding escalates in the donetsk region. kremlin has been zoning in on their attacks. their russian rockets into southern ukrainian 60 saturday in a latest series of bombardments that ukraine says killed dozens of people in recent days. wild rile fires raging in -- spain and france a forcing thousands of people to evacuate from their homes. wildfires are among dozens across europe, driven by heat wave that is gripped parts of the continent and has threatened to bring record breaking temperatures to

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for two years, maga republicans have been pushing the big lie. the completely unfounded claims democrats rig the 2020 election. the january six committee has laid out in great detail how this false narrative was weaponized to inspire an angry mob to storm the u.s. capital. now the warning signs are flashing red yet again. and the distress calls are coming from inside our election system. republicans, who falsely accused democrats of cheating, are now being caught trying to manipulate the vote themselves. the website politico reports on

a growing number of insider threats. election security breaches being aided by local officials, charged with protecting the system. and colorado, a republican county clerk was indicted on ten criminal counts for her alleged attempt to break into voting machines. there are similar incidents of unauthorized access being investigated in pennsylvania, michigan, and ohio, in each case, the breeches are linked to supporters of former president donald trump. other gop officials are simply trying to inject chaos into the situation, such as the board of commissioners and mostly republican with -- new mexico, who refused to certify primarily election citing concerns related to the big lie. and then there are the republicans control state legislatures, which according

to the brennan center, have managed to pass the wave of new voter restrictions in 19 states over the past year. as the host of this show, and in my capacity as head of the national action network, i have been vocal in michael for meaningful federal leg election reform before it's too late. and yet, here we are. less than four months from the midterms, and our democracy is more vulnerable than ever. two maga republicans who would use false claims of fraud to cover and try and cheat themselves, we are wise to your game. and will remain vigilant against your efforts. and two other members of the gop, who with cynically and brace obvious lies for short term gains, understand, history will be most unkind to those who care more about holding on to political power than

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we have a lot to discuss with my political panel. joining me now, susan to pursue, republican strategist, and we need a tyler, democratic strategist. both are msnbc contributors. when eta, democrats are more and more frustrated with senator joe manchin. earlier this week, manchin signaled that he oppose legislation to combat climate change and will back trump tax breaks to the wealthy, delivering a stunning blow to the one of the top election priorities, following -- manchin told the radio station in the state of west virginia he is still open to a deal on climate legislation. meanwhile, president biden says

he is prepared to quote, take strong executive action to meet this moment. unquote. after this party has been struggling for months to pass or slim down reconciliation package, how damaging is this for democrats with months left until the midterms? are you optimistic something will get passed by november? >> well, it's like rinse and repeat with manchin to the point where i can't be optimistic about anything he says. what's frustrating about this instance this particular is that he was explicitly vocal in these negotiations with senator schumer. he was putting forth ideas that he wanted -- to renege on all of that is really frustrating so no, i'm not optimistic if manchin is going to be essential to getting anything done that these parts and president biden's legislative agenda won't be passed. i'm glad the president's finally saying he's willing to take the step, especially when

it comes to climate action, which we know will have economic implications. we know it will continue to exasperate as time progresses, but i want the president to be swift and taking that action so that he is not trying to wait around for yet another potential deal with manchin they could fall through, but he can announce something this summer that would be impactful in regards to climate change. >> susan, president biden is facing criticism after exchanging a fist bump with the saudi crown prince on friday, doing his trip to the middle east. they argue the countries de facto ruler approved the 2018 assassination of the washington post journalist. would you make of the backlash the president is receiving considering saudis are critical in keeping gas prices low? how do you think the trip went overall for the president? >> i think in the short term it's a hard situation, but i think it sort important at the

president did take that trip. he has been outstanding on foreign affairs and foreign policy and i don't think this will have long term impacts, because i don't think he would go to saudi arabia unless he knew that there was something that would be done that would help our country when it came to gas prices. i think the fist lump, it is what it is. i think people will soon forget it. it's not as impactful, frankly, as gas prices. gas prices go down a little bit as a result of the fist bump, i think all will be forgiven. >> susan, sticking with you a minute. new york times college poll shows troubling numbers among americans who just 10% say the u.s. economy is good or excellent. this despite the unemployment rate near a 50-year low. also overwhelming, at 70%, registered voters feel the economy is extremely important to how they vote this november. inflation has become a powerful

talking point for republicans ahead of the midterms. does this spell trouble for the democrats? >> it spells huge trouble for the democrats. there is no way around that. the democrats focused on a mechanic messaging, but they can't just be blaming other people and other things. but what they can do, which is essential to do is to go local. talk about the things in their district. talk about the infrastructure projects that are coming as a result of the bipartisan deal. talk about safer schools, because we do have gun legislation. talk about all the money that went because of the cares act into tutoring and after school programs for their school districts. there are things for the democrats to run on. they can't blame the economic battle and those numbers are hard to overcome because people face them every day when they go to the grocery store, but as the saying goes, people hate congress but love their own member of congress.

there is some hope, but they really have to not be afraid of leaving the president -- the president decided moving on with the agenda. nancy pelosi used to say if you have to one -- run against me to win elections, go ahead, and i think biden has to let that happen as well. >> when eta, into days, vice kamala harris will deliver a keynote address at the naacp convention. what role can vice president have to reverse biden's slide with black voters? she spoke in essence last week. she spoke in the last few months. what role can cheaply? >> continue to emphasize solutions for issues impacting black and brown americans. she should be a leading voice on this. she should absolutely be someone who this audience can see and have a familiar reaction too. understanding how she is leveraging her offices vice president to fight for them as

well. i do think she has been vocal on a number of issues lately that has been about reproductive justice and abortion care, and policing, and so i think that's something that she can step out front on here to engage with this audience. i also think she needs to talk about the economy, but in the frame of how democrats are fighting when republicans are opposing everything. i'm talking about run down the list, from the american rescue plan to the most recent votes on preventing price gouging at the gas pump that we know republicans oppose. naming all of that and setting it up as a case where it's clear that democrats are fighting for the people while republicans are presenting themselves as an extreme unfit alternative no one should be able to bear to vote for in november. i think of the vice president does that, she's going to set up a pretty welcoming environment come november. >> all right, susan anne del percio and juanita, thank you for being with us. coming up, we are going back to class with americas favorite

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sheryl lee ralph for her smash committee hit, a bit elementary. this creek is one half of the black -- couple. joining me in the celebration of his ways recognition, her busy husband, pennsylvania state senator vincent hughes. they're joining me now. emmy nominated actress sheryl lee ralph and state senator vincent hughes, democrat of pennsylvania. cheryl and vincent, like a set of the top of the show, this is a real treat for me sheryl, i have course have to start with my congratulations on your first ammunition for your role as barbara on abc's abbott elementary, which landed seven nominations this week, including your creative quinton bronson on the cusp of black history and as lead actor and writer. i've been watching your career going back to dream girls on broadway in the early 80s.

you and i talked about it when we met a few weeks ago. i want to know, i've also worked with your husband. we had a strong chat, man to man. he organizes a march in washington a couple years ago with martin luther king the third. you thought i forgot about that, senator. let me ask you this, more than 50 years of performing, did you ever sense how impactful the show would be when it was first brought to you? >> i absolutely have to say, first of all, thank you so much for your congratulatory message. i appreciate it so much. when i first read that script. i thought to myself, wow, this is amazing. this young woman has written a story that tells the truth about what is going on in challenged schools across america.

it takes place in philadelphia and at the same time it uplifts teachers, educators, all of those in different parts of the school system who come to do their job every day, caring about other people's children. sometimes more than they care about their own. i said if you can do all of that in 20 minutes, i'm in. >> now, state senator, as we talk kids and education on your wife fictional show, your states new budget has been touted as a big bipartisan win for schools in pennsylvania. even as a protestant -- heats up ahead in november. as the minority chair of your states senate appropriations committee, can you tell us with this 520 million-dollar increase in k-12 funding means for students and parents in rely fell in pennsylvania?

>> reverend, thank you. we're really focusing on that. thanks for recognizing my wife. she's the best. it's really 1.1 billion dollars of new money coming into k through 12 schools all across pennsylvania with a focus on schools and historically, the funding's mechanism for decades, if not generations. so we muscled up with democratic governor -- wolf, joined mcclintock, who i know you know in the house representatives and myself and my colleagues, senator -- to really push this as a central focus of trying to get this huge budget surplus that we have in pennsylvania and getting prioritized, and i would just would like to build on something that you said in the earlier segment. really sending the message to anybody who is watching right now. now is the time in this midterm election to play close

attention who is in your state senate, legislature, to flip those chambers from red to blue. that red is not traditional public in. that's a mega red. we've got to flip those legislatures red to blue so we could get the work done that is needed to be done. it is focusing on those legislations. it is hugely important in this process, reverent. cheryl, this wouldn't be politicsnation if i didn't bring up the work that you've done through your diva foundation to combat hiv and eight. we're that you are about to be honored by the elizabeth taylor aids foundation in september. even before the disruptions of covid, has american public health been doing enough to stop the spread of hiv a.i.d.s., particularly in black communities? >> i think there is always so much more that can be done, but i've learned so much,

everything that i went through with my friends dying so prematurely of aids, how slow the communities, everyone was to come to their aid, because of what they thought about those people, and what they deserved. i see so much of it playing out now with covid. the same way people didn't want to get tested, the same way the virus, the hiv virus mutated so many times to become a stronger, more powerful strain of the disease, the same thing we are seeing now with covid. people were slow to pay attention to hiv, aides, they're slope to pay attention to what's happening now with covid and now monkeypox. we've got to pay attention. we're your masks.

get tested. caribou or than just yourself because this is about all of us. >> oh sheryl lee i have to get the second. my producer is a big movie buff, any bug me all this week that i had to let you know that you were in one of his favorite films of all-time, a murder mystery called the mighty quinn. opposite denzel washington. back in the day, okay that's done now. back to work. but vincent and sheryl lee, i'm curious, where do you see the common thread in both of what you do, politics for you vincent, and the art of the possible in stage and screen for you sheryl lee, where nothing is possible. would you take from each other's work? >> look, cheryl lee is special because she's committed to

causes, not trying away, she understood politics, she understands public policy, she gets it, she understands it, and she embraces. the fact that we connected around the issue around hiv, we connect around social justice issues, education especially, is just a link that has been very special for us. i recommend by i don't recommend bicoastal relationship for everybody, but it certainly worked very well for. us look at how she smiled. >> sheryl lee what do you get out of the combination in the marriage? what's feeds both of you? >> i love my husband. i love my husband's passion for what he does. i love the fact that my husband respects would i do. you know, sometimes, you walk into a room, as a celebrity and you can cast a big light, and my husband does not mind sharing it with me.

that has been a great blessing for me. and i love how he loves me. >> all, right i've been told sometimes your husband holds the spotlight on you. oh sheryl lee ralph and vincent hughes, thank you both for being with us. my final thoughts after the break. or being with us. being with us. my finalmy share, man. ♪ ♪ i've been everywhere. ♪ ♪ i've been to: pittsburgh, parkersburg, ♪ ♪ gravelbourg, colorado, ♪ ♪ ellensburg, cedar city, dodge city, what a pity. ♪ ♪ i've been everywhere, man. ♪ ♪ i've been everywhere, man. ♪ ♪ i've been everywhere. ♪ break.

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highlight some of the stories that caught my attention. starting with britney griner, the basketball players trial for drug possession in russia has been adjourned for 11 days after a defense team asked for more time to prepare their case. griner's attorney submitted medical records showing griner uses medical cannabis to treat chronic pain. two months after the deadly mass shooting in buffalo, that left ten black people dead, those tops supermarket word

happen has reopened. a prayer vigil was held at the remodelled store to honor the victims. the man wrongfully convicted of killing malcolm x back in 1965 is suing the city of new york for $40 million, last year prosecutors vacated the conviction of mohammed -- who is now 84 years old. he is suing for malicious prosecution, denial of due process rights and government misconduct. a statue of civil rights leader and educator mary mcleod bitumen was unveiled in the capital this week, in the u.s. capital's statutory law making her the first black person to receive that honor. diffuse monument replaces a statue of a former confederate general. and eric garner, who died while in the hands of nypd officers eight years ago, has been

honored at a street naming ceremony on staten island this afternoon. the street sign eric garner way, will be located on the exact block where garner took his last breath after locked in a chokehold by nypd officer. and a movement that his family and his mother and i was part of also has a law, the eric garner anti chokehold law in the state of new york. that is change. we'll be right back. is change we'll be right back.

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see you back here tomorrow at 5 pm eastern for another live hour of politicsnation. american voices with guest hosts, my colleague katie fang starts right now on msnbc. check >> my thanks to reverend al sharpton. hello, everyone. i am katie fang in for lisa end is. we begin this hour with new steps from the january 6th committee as it works to answer questions that donald trump's plot to steal the 2020 election. nbc news reporting the committee has no subpoenaed the secret service of erased text messages. committee members want to get their hands on those text messages and other records that might shed new light on the deadly capitol riot. the secret service promising today that it will